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How am I doing with the USA?

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Official United Systems Alliance (USA) OOC Thread

Post by CmdrWedgeAntillies » Sun Apr 20, 2003 7:41 pm

OOC: All flames will be ignored. I ask only for common respect and calm questions with no mocking. I don't plan on busting on this project, so constructive critism will be taken into account, but flaming and lack of respect will not be responded to.

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Post by Rebhuh » Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:29 pm

As I am one of the ones to jump on you lately, I will come up and say my peace.

Wedge, you are trying to push things way to far, too fast. You have a tiny (relative) new government that is capable of things that the largest independants are. You have RP'd that you have shipyards that are capable of manufacturing 30 ships. Not to mention the SD and SSD thing.

All of the gov's on your size scale barely have shipyards, let alone any that are able to build anything larger then a small cruiser. Get real!

Its the same thing as before. Your playing at being a big boy and wanting to run when you (your Gov) isn't even stable enough to walk. So take a deep breath and RP something that everyone can not only believe, but respect.

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Post by Gamaliel » Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:09 pm

*watches as the NR sneezes, and the USA is wiped away*

Wow, that felt good. I ought to sneeze more often!

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Post by Alex Kerensky » Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:11 pm

RebHuh, you have lately been getting on my nerves. But never mind that.

Have you read what Ryan has posted? You are aware that (almost) everything he is RPing is planned to fail or crash. You did see that, right? If you did, then tell me: What does it matter if he RPs such large construction yards, etc.?

Would you say the same thing if I created the Hussein Regime and established my own government, with the exception that my post was long enough to show that my government died? Probably not because my government would not affect you or anyone else. Give him some time to actually post his thread.

If Ryan has planned on having his SSDs and "uber" creations fail as a way to bash reality into his characters' heads, then how does that really affect you? Does it matter? Does it affect anyone else? No, it likely does not. All it affects is Ryan's characters.

Okay, my rant is over.

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Post by CmdrWedgeAntillies » Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:22 pm

OOC: Alex, while I enjoy your coming to my defense, Rebhuh does have a point, and he made it in a very smart and sensable manner.

Rebhuh, I agree, that the government won't be able to support the fleet I speak of. Eventually, I'll slash to number down to 18 ships that are merely to be used as peacekeeping vessels. The largest ship I will have will be a Raider-class Medium Cruiser (1.3 kilometers). I think, after that, I will focus mostly on maintaining the fleet.

The slashing of ships will be made behind budget problems with the programs and various other problems in the government.

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So, if you find something wrong, or something that you believe desires explaining, please, read the thread first, and then comment on here about it. But realize I don't desire another situation, and please be sensable like Rebhuh was. Thank you.

Alex, good point, which is what I was trying to say all along, but don't berate them for questions. They do have a right to that.
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Post by Alex Kerensky » Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:26 pm

Ryan, you are absolutely right. Reb was being sensable and civilized in presenting criticism.

For that, RebHuh, I apologize. I was reacting on my memories of your earlier posts regarding this situation. I reread what you posted in this thread, and I see that it is indeed sensably put.

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Post by Rebhuh » Tue Apr 22, 2003 5:51 am

Thank you to both. And if you are aware of how I operate, I never flame. I'll comment in a heavy way, but never flame.

And Yes, I realize what you are doing Wedge and it makes a great story. Quite entertaining. (This is for Alex) However, it is the fact that your even going where you are that makes the issue. A Gov the size of yours, (and even larger) cannot even dream of producing ships over 1km in length. It is just to expensive. To even contimplate it makes it silly. Hell, the Old Republic didn't have vvery many essels over 1km until the Empire came along and enslaved and sucked the galaxy dry to make them. So how can something that is tiny in comparrison do this?

It is also the fact that you are going there over time that people do not understand. We see you building these things, and in essense get reports from our Intelligence agency's as to what your doing, and we're not supposed to react until we find out the rest of the story? C'mon!

If that were the case, then the Rebel's would have let the Empire finish their Death Star only to realize that the Empire would not be able to operate it becuase they ran out of money (end of story)...

Anyway Wedge, keep writing and making a good story, but keep it small as I have said.

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Post by CmdrWedgeAntillies » Thu Apr 24, 2003 2:09 pm

OOC: I plan on introducing Robar Ab, Plattman's char within the next couple of days. any questions, ask me.
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Post by PrinceKirin » Sun Apr 27, 2003 7:45 am

I would like to join in this project. I have a great amount of knowledge on how democracy works, considering I just finished IB Government and Economics. Would you all consider allowing me to join?
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Post by CmdrWedgeAntillies » Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:09 pm

OOC: Well, the first question is what you would do as a part of this government. What position would you like to hold, and what positions are actually open. Perhaps, if could offer more information on your particular areas of interest, I can better inform you as to what is open.
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Post by PrinceKirin » Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:49 pm

Well from what I see there are two options.

first being I become part of the government directly. But that would have to be by direct presidential appointment. Elections are good and over so I have to be appointed. To what, I don't care.

The second is I could represent a group joining the new union or being allies.

My character, as i hope he will be, is a rich buisnessman. A multibillionaire. He is in the transport and cargo buisness. At the age of twenty he successfuly salvaged and repaired an abandoned Imperator class star destroyer named the REI. He converted it to carry cargo. From there he got his start. Now thirty two he has massed a huge company. His base is on the planet S6F and his auxilury base is on Darin V. He controls both systems. He started it as a small base and it has grown to a city. In his twelve years he built a small fleet and several small settlements for variuos things. His fleet is made up of frigates and converted star destroyers. It helps to have cash.
He heard about a new government that holds his same views on government and became interested. He could join representing the two systems. Or be appointed. That or he could be of service as an ally. His fleets could put alot of money into the economy of the USA or he COULD generously donate some ships and money to help build a defence fleet. The work of a serious ally. No pay for Kirin would be neccessary. He makes enough!

I think it sounds good. Would benifit the USA alot. However if you don't like my characters current layout, it would be easy to addapt him to any position you wish him to serve.
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Post by Alex Kerensky » Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:01 pm

PrinceKirin, just FYI, you may want to be careful with starting out with a character that is so powerful. I personally do not mind, but some of the may not like a character that is so powerful without an RPed history. It may or may not be a problem; I do not know. Either way, good luck. :)

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Post by PrinceKirin » Mon Apr 28, 2003 4:10 pm

I have been rping a history. I started rping on starwarsgalaxies back in January. Thats when I joiined black nova squadron. The character I created there was shortly there after written out. His general history was completed. Since I have been building that history. Kirin can be linked to several threads. I can give you a history of him though. However I will be brief.

At the age of fifteen his parents were killed by the empire. He his sister and one rebel commando used an escape pod and were stranded on Darin 5. His sister dissapeared and the commando died before rescue. He joined the rebellion two years later. In Black Nova squadron he quickly rose through the ranks. For the following three years he aquired two y-wings, an n-1, and a yt-1300. He used them to make money on the side. At the age of twenty he was offered a promaotion and a position in Royal Blue Squadron. He took it and views it as a mistake to this day. Later that year in a daring resue mission he managed to salvage a recenlty abandoned Imperator class star destroyer. He used all his money to repair her. It took more than a year and his friends help. He started running cargo here and there. Made alot of bucks. Became a buisnessman and built a small fleet by the age of thirty. He soon aquired Darin 5 and system S6F in buisness and trade agreements.

I myself don't consider him too powerful. A rich uncle pennybags maybe, but nothing more. Just a loyal ally or a member of the union. Even if I don't donate ships or money, I have two planets with populations. I could join the union. Well that is I could lead those planets into it. That would pump money from my buisness into the economy. Trade is important. I have a small fleet built for it. I consider him helpful not powerful. Kirin has no desire to lead a nation or group there of. Controling a fleet is hard enough.
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Post by CmdrWedgeAntillies » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:01 pm

OOC: Interesting story.

Well, I agree with Alex's point, slightly. I'd need to know that exact specifications of the Imperial-class Star Destroyer, but reparing one of those things would probably bankrupt your character. Then, perhaps, his company begins to grow as he has to start from scratch as he rebuilds his accounts.

I can understand that fact that, eight years later he's turned it into a thriving company, but I don't know if he's a multi billionaire quite yet. What I can say, is that I can have your character's business be the primary trading service in the United Systems Alliance. Your fleet would fall under the Navy's command, and would primarily be repaired before being utilized for escort primarily and defending Kraulag IV, a planet on the other side of the galaxy.

Those two planets under your business' control would probably be, at the very least, given the ability to enter the USA. From there, they would fall under USA governmental jurisdiction, but only if those living on those planets so agreed to joining our government. If they declined to join he government, we would treat them as nearby independent states and deal with them accordingly.

Your character would be Assitant Minister of the Department of Commerce for the United Systems Alliance. You'd have direct access to the President on occasion, and meet with him about Intergalactic Commerce with the various planets and governments. You'd be in charge of correlating exports and imports, and making a profit off of those economic actions.

Any other questions, please ask, your character can begin his job as soon as possible as of now.

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Post by PrinceKirin » Tue Apr 29, 2003 5:22 pm

THANKS WEDGE!
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Post by VegetaTheWhite » Sat May 17, 2003 6:29 am

Did I just see someone refer to a ship 1,300 meters long as a medium cruiser?
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Post by EmperorCroft » Sat May 17, 2003 6:35 am

OOC: the honorable vegetable has a point.... after all heavy cruisers like the MC-90 are only what 1200m?
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Post by CmdrWedgeAntillies » Sat May 17, 2003 8:05 am

OOC: I will be more then happy to explain.

The Raider-class Medium Cruiser's class is based on its armament. Relative to the Imperial-class Star Destroyer, and its older cousin the Victory-class Star Destroyer, the Raider-class Medium Cruiser's armament is significantly less.

I do understand, and see what you mean when you say that, but the classification is based on its armament, not its size and length.
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Post by PrinceKirin » Sat May 17, 2003 10:19 am

makes sense to me. That is a big ship anyway. Over half a mile long!
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Post by Jagtai » Tue May 27, 2003 9:33 pm

CmdrWedgeAntilles, I have a proposition for you. I want my Black Star Confederacy to expand its contacts, and thought you might want to conduct negotiations with them. No war or nothing, just peaceful contact. I will be looking forward to your answer.
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Post by CmdrWedgeAntillies » Wed May 28, 2003 2:33 pm

OOC:

Jag-

Sending my government a transmission on our IC thread will begin the process of sending representatives in developing positive relations between our governments.

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Post by Jagtai » Thu May 29, 2003 1:43 am

Thanks, but actually I was thinking about having a ship of mine 'stumble' upon USA space. Is that acceptable as well?
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Post by CmdrWedgeAntillies » Thu May 29, 2003 7:24 am

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I like your thinking. It would be able to make me have some fun with my military. You can 'stumble', as you say, into a couple systems: Din, Zarin, Lanelle, Ramondel, or Sevrance. Whichever one you pick is fine with me. You are permitted to post on the United Systems Alliance main thread.

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Post by Jagtai » Thu May 29, 2003 9:27 pm

Thanks :)

I'll post as soon as possible.
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