Proposal Four- Uber Characters

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Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Mir » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:59 am

This is part of a series of proposals for the World of Heroes forum. Please take your time and read over everything and voice any thoughts, concerns, or complaints. Once we have discussed the situation, there will be a vote.

This one is going to be a quick one, honestly. I know I’m probably tiring you guys by now, but I’m trying to be thorough

Proposal Four- Uber Characters

This is the current rule on Uber Characters
Current WoH Ruleset wrote: 2. Uber Characters
There are some limits when creating a character, either a new one or a copy. Characters on a power scale similar to Galactus, Thanos, Darksied, the Phoenix, Silver Surfer, etc. are off limits unless special permission is given. Should you wish to do something of this nature please seek permission from the WoH Coordinator, or the community. The reason for this is because such characters normally involve many people when being dealt with. This would be something of a forum wide experience.
I have underlined and bolded the part of this that I have issue with. Just as with Proposal Three, I don’t think that the WoH Coordinator should be able to determine whether or not someone can have a character that is on a large power scale. That should be community approval as well. So my proposal is to remove that part from the rule. Honestly, I don’t even remember voting on adding it in there, in the first place. Whoever added that in there did not have the approval of the majority of the forum, I think.


There will be one week's worth of time allotted for debate and discussion. If there are no objections, then I will edit the rules to allow for that particular change and that only to go through. If there are objections, and another proposal is formed, there will be a vote.
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Ghost » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:33 pm

I have speculations but I don't believe that was ever an agreement brought forth to the community as a whole.

I can recall on several occasions where Phoenix or Rachel Summers has come to mind.

Adam once told me that to get a character on an "Omega" scale, a majority of the WoH forums would have to grant it and given my time with the community it would be doubtful I would be granted such a character, but keep in mind that was some time ago.

I see no issue with this being like Blood Relatives but realistically have stipulations on it which enforce the "active" part and don't let people just hoard 'em up cause they want to.

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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Mir » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:36 pm

Yes, it was. There is an OOC thread where I requested the Phoenix Force. That was because Adam complained that I needed to, when I had gotten the Phoenix Force from Cazzik before that rule had been put into place. For appeasement purposes, I did that thread. No other Omega level character has had a thread made to have permission asked, however.

That being said, I definitely understand and agree with your last paragraph.
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Ghost » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:38 pm

Mirrodin2nd wrote:Yes, it was. There is an OOC thread where I requested the Phoenix Force. That was because Adam complained that I needed to, when I had gotten the Phoenix Force from Cazzik before that rule had been put into place. For appeasement purposes, I did that thread. No other Omega level character has had a thread made to have permission asked, however.

That being said, I definitely understand and agree with your last paragraph.
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Cadden » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:56 pm

The underlined rule has been there since WoH started, and it was just modified to cater to the WoH Cooridnator, basically.

Which is why you don't remember voting/discussing it. :P

But yeah, community discussion, etc. is definitely a better idea. I mean, I can see why WoH Coordinator was the idea, but sometimes, a broader perspective is a better perspective.
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Mir » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:58 pm

How could it have been there since WoH started when there was no WoH Coordinator?

That was added in there after a WoH Coordiantor was elected so that people could just ask the WoH Coordinator instead of going to the community for approval. That should have required discussion.
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Cadden » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:20 pm

Cadden wrote:and it was just modified to cater to the WoH Cooridnator, basically.
TECHNICALLY, we've always had a Coordinator, just never was official.
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Mir » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:21 pm

Are you referring to Cazzik?
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Cadden » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:27 pm

Who else? The dude's the one responsible for this forum. :P

Though I should amend my post and say it was never official 'til... well... it was. You know. Whatever. :P
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Cazzik » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:50 am

I was NEVER the WoH Coordinator. Official or otherwise. I will not be dragged into getting blamed for an inconsistency in the rules simply because I was the one that came up with an idea for a super hero forum. I at no time acted in any such capacity nor did I want to. I adhered to the rules that everyone else did and I went to the ACTUAL WoH Coordinator like anyone else would have when I had a special request. Stop bringing my name up everytime you have an issue with something on these boards, Cadden. It is really starting to grate on my nerves. I don't do it to you or anyone else so don't do it to me. Thank you.
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Cadden » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:16 am

Cazzik wrote:Stop bringing my name up everytime you have an issue with something on these boards, Cadden. It is really starting to grate on my nerves. I don't do it to you or anyone else so don't do it to me. Thank you.
:raisedbrow: Wtf? Dude... If you could consider this being one such time, then this is the only time I have ever "accused" you of something on these boards. Or have you forgotten of the countless times I've publicly defended you when the majority of the boards were against you? Let's not forget to mention the fact that I still have Cazzik's part of the whole Trayus thing reserved, in respect for you and what you've wanted. Most anyone else would have shifted away from that, citing inactivity.

I merely pointed out that that rule had been in place from the get-go. When I said you were a coordinator, I was referring to the point of fact: You started the WoH, the rules were founded by you, and the rule of the uber characters was adopted from your own. I never claimed you were the authority of WoH.
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Re: Proposal Four- Uber Characters

Post by Mir » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:45 pm

Since there was no argument against the proposal, the rules will be edited accordingly with the underlined and bolded phrasing removed.
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